Grand Prix 2014 Singapore Grand Prix Practice, Qualifying & Race Discussion

So the F1 circus rolls into Singapore and pitches its big top tent for the 7th time in the region for F1’s original (and best) night race. It was seen as a bit of a gimmick when it was brought in but I have to say I’ve always enjoyed the spectacle of the cars under the lights and it works especially well with imagery of the super connecting highways running round the track and the bright lights from the skyscrapers and hotels. Whilst the track lay out could be better it has not left us with a shortage in excitement over the years and whether it be Alonso and Vettel going the whole Grand Prix nose to bumper, Hamilton and Webber tangling after the safety car or, of course, Alonso’s infamous Piquet Jr assisted win at the first race, we’ve never been short of things to talk about.

Who has form here? Well the aforementioned Alonso has always gone well here (although I doubt we’ll hear him brag about the 2008 race) and the circuit is a bit of a car leveller so I expect him to have a great race.

Singapore has always represented the start of Vettel’s purple patch of form in previous season so you would also expect him to have a good showing, whether that showing will be as good as his team mate Ricciardo remains to be seen. Where the championship challenge is concerned Nico Rosberg has always looked good around Singapore and came very close to winning it twice in a Williams. Rosberg would have won the second time if not for a silly error crossing the pit lane line. Hamilton meanwhile has always been quick here but has constantly appeared to find trouble around the track and not pull off the result he looked set to get. One driver who has never had a good time around this track is Kimi Raikonnen. Whether that’s due to too many Singapore slings who knows but its something he really needs to turn round with the way his current season has been going
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Singapore is also notorious as a race of attrition with the tight street circuit nature not leaving much room for error and therefore the race racks up the number of retirements from a crash situation as well as the number of safety cars. This could of course leave the door open for the teams at the back to pick some points up. The safe bet on that would be Bianchi bringing the Marussia home for a good result but the Sauber has been looking a little bit more steady of late and they really need to be if they don’t want the embarrassment of finishing behind Marussia in the constructors championship this season . The problem for Sauber is though that you’d bet pretty heavily on both their drivers actually being the ones to get involved in the accident. Romain Grosjean might certainly be a good bet to add to his points tally whilst team mate Maldonado might not look such a good prospect. Its hard to predict whether Caterham will be around for the points as its hard to predict who will be driving for them. Everyone who gets in the car appears to be quicker than Ericson so I guess it depends on who they put in and their form. If its Roberto Merhi you’d be hard pushed to think a rookie would make the full distance without an error.

The main midfield battle at the minute appears to be Mclaren and Force India with Mclaren on the way up and Force India on the way down. Perez had a great race at Monza but is known to get in the wars around Singapore and Hulkenberg has been strangely subdued in the last few races. Button is usually good around street circuits so should show well here and his rookie teammate is looking increasingly quicker at the moment and would have scored good results but for 2 penalties in the last two races (one of them maybe fair enough and one of them just stupid). I hope this doesn’t put KMag off his defensive driving style as its exciting to watch and should work well around this track even though he’s never raced here before. Another driver who hasn’t driven round here before is Kvyat, but judging on the speed he managed to catch these guys at Monza he should be in the mix with them. He will need new overalls after the brakes failing him at turn one with two laps to go in Italy.

For me Singapore is the Asian Monaco and a very shiny jewel in the F1 crown but I do understand there are others who have a different view on that. Never the less I’m sure we are all looking forward to what should be the next instalment in the Hamilton/Rosberg title scrap.
 
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Given the differences in their performance, I would say it is a safe bet that neither Williams nor Force India have the same spec power units that the Merc team has.
 
Am I the only one who misses this?

Vettel-teaser-takeover.jpg

At the moment, probably not.
 
I was waiting for the FIA to fix the broken links to some of the timing documents.
It's been a while since I did one of these.

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For all you math people taking the integral of each curve would theoretically give each driver's total time. The safety car kind of screws that up for this race though but still somewhat interesting I guess. Actually now that I think about it it actually isn't that interesting at all.
 
Re: Alonso's start

I think the main reason Alonso braked too late at the start in Singapore was the green track caused by the rain that fell on the track the day before.
Knowing where to brake at the first corner was always going to be a gamble for everyone.
It's just that Alonso took a slightly bigger gamble in the first corner than those around him, which isn't really unusual for him at the start.

As for knowing whether he should have given one or two places back, that's a pretty grey area... how exactly is it possible to quantify how much time he gained/would have lost had he braked normally?
 
Incubus the main reason Alonso braked too late was because he was over-optimistic and tried to make too many places up.

As to whether he should have given one or two places back, in my mind it's quite simple. By going off the track, he passed Vettel and Ricciardo whereas if he'd braked properly and stayed within the white lines, he wouldn't have passed either of them. So he should have given up the place to Ricciardo too.
 
Incubus the main reason Alonso braked too late was because he was over-optimistic and tried to make too many places up.

As to whether he should have given one or two places back, in my mind it's quite simple. By going off the track, he passed Vettel and Ricciardo QUOTE]

Not so sure about that. He was marginally ahead of both cars just BEFORE the braking area, then lost it under braking and maintained and even increased his advantage.
To me it just harks back to the debate about tarmac run-offs because if there had been grass or whatever on the outside he would have lost time just trying to control the car anyway. I always thought these "give-the-place-back" guidelines just look totally absurd. I know it's another debate and nothing new but they look just as absurd as they did when they started to become the norm.
 
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On a different subject but related to the tarmac run off area/giving the place back debate did anyone notice JEV take a tactical hit on the penalty front?

His drive was impressive but I can't help but feel when he overtook outside of track limits the decision was made to not give the place back as with no pit stops left they knew 5 seconds would have been added on at the end so it was a much better gamble to try and make the 5 seconds up now he was clear on fresher tyres than to drop behind and have to try again.

Not 100% sure thats in the spirit of the sport but it worked this time for JEV and then some!
 
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There's been some crazy figures thrown around about the Mercedes advantage after the SC. 3-4 seconds a lap and whatnot. Here are the actual figures from the Hamilton - Vettel race. Lewis was of course on a 4 race lap old set of Super Softs which was generally regarded as being 2 seconds quicker all weekend.
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So Hamilton pulled away from Vettel at an average of 1.739 seconds a lap during that stint.
With Ricciardo's battery issue I'm surprised that Alonso couldn't get by. And apparently McLaren disapprove of the way that Red Bull instructed Daniel to deal with it.

Yes.
Some people forgot about the Vettel advantage in the 2013 and very exaggerated Mercedes advantage in this year.
We may compare Singapore 2013 vs 2014:
2013 Vettel vs Alonso
31 - 2,700
32 - 2,829
33 - 2,728
34 - 2,017
35 - 1,826
36 - 2,525
37 - 2,312
38 - 2,164
39 - 2,369
40 - 2,100
41 - 1,702
42 - 1,278
43 - 1,178
(27,7 seconds in 13 laps)

2014 Hamilton vs Vettel
38 - 2,367
39 - 2,550
40 - 1,766
41 - 2,103
42 - 1,867
43 - 1,971
44 - 1,765
45 - 2,053
46 - 1,400
47 - 1,627
48 - 0,761
49 - 1,576
50 - 1,281
51 - 1,262
(24,3 seconds in 14 laps)

And one important moment:
Vettel and Alonso 2013 were on one tyre type,
but Hamilton and Vettel 2014 were on different
 
Autosport have a few more details.

Following the problems that forced the 2014 F1 title contender out of the Marina Bay race, Mercedes flew the faulty steering column parts back to its Brackley factory for detailed analysis this week.

That intense forensic investigation revealed that the steering column electronics were contaminated with an unspecified foreign substance that is used during pre-event servicing procedures.


http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/116041
 
intense forensic investigation revealed that the steering column electronics were contaminated with an unspecified foreign substance that is used during pre-event servicing procedures

So this part was contaminated before it ever got to Singapore, by an unspecified substance that Mercedes use regularly for some reason. I'm glad the detectives have "cleared this up" for us. :nah:
 
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