Windows 8
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Windows 8 is circling the drain. Its market penetration has been no better than Vista's had been, which equals disastrous. The v8.1 patch did not staunch the bleeding, so Microsoft's new CEO has taken the decision to suspend development of v8.2 (which effectively cuts Win8 adrift) in favour of focusing all resources on Windows 9, which they hope to release next year. According to Micro Mart magazine, they are binning Win8's one-size-fits-all interface in favour of a bespoke GUI for each of the different platforms. And the desktop GUI will harken back to the same one used from Win95 thru XP, in no small part because the average PC user does not fancy having to learn to use one interface at home and another at work.
Projections are that after its 8 April sunset (AKA "XPocalypse") , there still will be on the order of 300 million PCs on earth running XP. All of MS's post-XP OSes were optimised to run on 64-bit hardware, which left the 32-bit versions woefully underpowered due to the 4GB RAM limit (which was another factor in those great many folk keeping their XP). So Win9 reportedly will use less aggressive memory management, making it more suitable to use under the 4GB limit, which they hope will tempt some of those 300 million to "upgrade."
XP was the last product MS built that sold itself. Everything since they've only been able to get off the store shelves by bundling and bullying. And they're tired of Service & Support division profits subsidising OS division losses, so the new CEO is keen to have Win9 actually pay for its own development costs. Their campaign to convert the world to cloud computing is languishing, and the new upstarts (Android, Chrome & iOS) threaten their desktop supremacy, so MS can ill-afford another OS that does not sell on its own merits.
You can give Win7 a desktop very similar to XP's by installing (freeware) Classic Shell, and get back the QuickLaunch area on your Win7 toolbar by applying this MS-approved tweak.
You can avoid Win8's Metro interface by installing Start8 ($5), which boots straight to the desktop. It also adds a genuine start button. ClassicShell also supports Win8, but it lacks true start button functionality, and sometimes works at crossed purposes to Start8.
Both Win7 and Win8's search functions are completely bollocksed, but you can fix them for $5 with FileSearchEx.
Projections are that after its 8 April sunset (AKA "XPocalypse") , there still will be on the order of 300 million PCs on earth running XP. All of MS's post-XP OSes were optimised to run on 64-bit hardware, which left the 32-bit versions woefully underpowered due to the 4GB RAM limit (which was another factor in those great many folk keeping their XP). So Win9 reportedly will use less aggressive memory management, making it more suitable to use under the 4GB limit, which they hope will tempt some of those 300 million to "upgrade."
XP was the last product MS built that sold itself. Everything since they've only been able to get off the store shelves by bundling and bullying. And they're tired of Service & Support division profits subsidising OS division losses, so the new CEO is keen to have Win9 actually pay for its own development costs. Their campaign to convert the world to cloud computing is languishing, and the new upstarts (Android, Chrome & iOS) threaten their desktop supremacy, so MS can ill-afford another OS that does not sell on its own merits.
You can give Win7 a desktop very similar to XP's by installing (freeware) Classic Shell, and get back the QuickLaunch area on your Win7 toolbar by applying this MS-approved tweak.
You can avoid Win8's Metro interface by installing Start8 ($5), which boots straight to the desktop. It also adds a genuine start button. ClassicShell also supports Win8, but it lacks true start button functionality, and sometimes works at crossed purposes to Start8.
Both Win7 and Win8's search functions are completely bollocksed, but you can fix them for $5 with FileSearchEx.
When are they going to have multiple desktops? Or even desktops larger than the screen?
Get your self a 3D computer Bill Boddy
Why? We already know that the universe is simply a 3D projection on 2D space (http://cliptheapex.com/threads/do-we-live-in-a-hologram.6654/) which makes anything 3D pointless.
I 'upgraded' my iMac at work to Maverick 2 months ago. Every since then I have many application suddenly quit on me for no reason, including mail, safari, word and excel. AND the new 'update' broke our file server, the SMB2 protocol was corrupting files at random opened over our network. AND they just released an update because Maverick, iOS and the Maverick server OS had a massive security flaw.
So to say, switch to mac and everything is rosy is crap. Its not.
I use windows 8 at home and on my phone and I like it. Its much more stable and user friendly.
So to say, switch to mac and everything is rosy is crap. Its not.
I use windows 8 at home and on my phone and I like it. Its much more stable and user friendly.
I've been trying to download a Windows 8.1 update KB2919355, which showed as an important update on the windows update details.
But I have been unable to update! At first there were messages saying unable to update, and now the computer just hangs whilst the update is supposed to be downloading...
..Erm.
But I have been unable to update! At first there were messages saying unable to update, and now the computer just hangs whilst the update is supposed to be downloading...
..Erm.
McZiderRed try doing this.
Run CMD as administrator (Go to start screen, all apps, search CMD, right-click and select run as administrator)
Copy and paste this command into the CMD window
Press Enter
When that has completed.
Copy and paste this command into the CMD window
Press Enter
Then retry the update.
If that doesn't work tag me again for another solution...
Run CMD as administrator (Go to start screen, all apps, search CMD, right-click and select run as administrator)
Copy and paste this command into the CMD window
Code:
dism /online /remove-package /packagename:Package_for_KB2919355~31bf3856ad364e35~amd64~~6.3.1.14When that has completed.
Copy and paste this command into the CMD window
Code:
dism /online /cleanup-image /startcomponentcleanupPress Enter
Then retry the update.
If that doesn't work tag me again for another solution...
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Mephistopheles I followed your instructions successfully re the CMD, but when I tried the update again (about 50 minutes download) it failed again! It manages to download the update ok but the error message appears when it tries to install the update.
The error code given was 80070002 Windows Update ran into a problem. (the same error as before...)
The error code given was 80070002 Windows Update ran into a problem. (the same error as before...)
McZiderRed try this its for windows 7 though
http://windows.microsoft.com/en-gb/windows/windows-update-error-80070002#1TC=windows-7
http://windows.microsoft.com/en-gb/windows/windows-update-error-80070002#1TC=windows-7
McZiderRed If you have an antivirus program running disable it and then try the install again.
To disable antivirus just right click the icon in the system tray and click disable protection on the pop up list
To disable antivirus just right click the icon in the system tray and click disable protection on the pop up list
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Whoa! That was a biggun...! That was a struggle! 
Mission successful. Thank you Mephistopheles and Greenlantern101 for your advice and help.
As I was pissed off with the whole thing, I decided to not only follow the advice on Greenlantern's link (deleting the windows update files which basically reset the whole malarkey) but also following Meph's advice of disabling my antivirus. But, as I wasn't sure if my Firewall was the problem, I disabled that as well.
Update started again...
The update download took 55 minutes. Once downloaded, the update took 45 minutes to install. The computer then needed to do a restart, which took about 30 minutes! Must be a large update, I thought, excitedly..!
Computer finally restarted. The only visible difference (noticed so far) is that the store has an icon on the start bar...
Mint.
Mission successful. Thank you Mephistopheles and Greenlantern101 for your advice and help.
As I was pissed off with the whole thing, I decided to not only follow the advice on Greenlantern's link (deleting the windows update files which basically reset the whole malarkey) but also following Meph's advice of disabling my antivirus. But, as I wasn't sure if my Firewall was the problem, I disabled that as well.
Update started again...
The update download took 55 minutes. Once downloaded, the update took 45 minutes to install. The computer then needed to do a restart, which took about 30 minutes! Must be a large update, I thought, excitedly..!
Computer finally restarted. The only visible difference (noticed so far) is that the store has an icon on the start bar...
Mint.
I believe that particular update is about 850MB something like that..
I haven't bothered to update to 8.1 yet so I'm not sure.
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Also I don't bother with any antivirus software, which is why it didn't occur to me to mention disabling it in the first place..
I haven't bothered to update to 8.1 yet so I'm not sure.
Edit
Also I don't bother with any antivirus software, which is why it didn't occur to me to mention disabling it in the first place..
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Mint
I have been on 8.1 for some time. Yeh the icon in the corner is the only change I have noticed as well. I use Windows defender as my anti-virus as its freeeeeee, up yours McAfee.
I have been on 8.1 for some time. Yeh the icon in the corner is the only change I have noticed as well. I use Windows defender as my anti-virus as its freeeeeee, up yours McAfee.
Never expected to be asking for help here but looks like some satisfaction might be had, having read through. I would be grateful if any of you can help.
I am getting the following error when trying to update Windows 8 with the new "desktop first" update.
http://windows.microsoft.com/en-us/windows-8/windows-update-error-0x80073712
I have tried Methods 1 and 2, although I am now retrying with AVG Antivirus Free uninstalled (I'll let you know how I get on this time) but the update still returns the same error.
I have then tried Method 3 but apparently there are files missing from the image so I cannot Refresh Windows. The next instruction is to visit a Samsung Service Centre with my Samsung 9 Series laptop. However, I have just move to Brazil and this is a UK model.
If Methods 1, 2 and 3 are still unsuccessful, having uninstalled AVG Antivirus Free, then am I up the creek or are there other steps that I can take?
Any help would be most welcome.
I am getting the following error when trying to update Windows 8 with the new "desktop first" update.
http://windows.microsoft.com/en-us/windows-8/windows-update-error-0x80073712
I have tried Methods 1 and 2, although I am now retrying with AVG Antivirus Free uninstalled (I'll let you know how I get on this time) but the update still returns the same error.
I have then tried Method 3 but apparently there are files missing from the image so I cannot Refresh Windows. The next instruction is to visit a Samsung Service Centre with my Samsung 9 Series laptop. However, I have just move to Brazil and this is a UK model.
If Methods 1, 2 and 3 are still unsuccessful, having uninstalled AVG Antivirus Free, then am I up the creek or are there other steps that I can take?
Any help would be most welcome.
The only thing antivirus programs are good for is slowing down your internet connection, end of.
Yep. I have just woken up to that. There was a time when they were a necessity but I never got the wake-up call.
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