Grand Prix 2019 Australian Grand Prix Practice, Qualifying & Race Discussion

There's still another test session before the F1 season kicks off in Melbourne on 17th March but lets get the hype going as we enter the 69th season of the Formula One World Championship. It will be the usual early start for UK viewers if you able to watch live with Sky starting their broadcast (or narrow cast if the declining number of viewers is true) at ten past five in the morning. Yes, there is a five o'clock in the morning now.

The 2019 season is long. We are starting earlier in March than normal and the last race is on 1st December at Yas Marina. In amongst all this the 1,000 GP will be held in China on April 14th. There had been suggestions of trying to run the race in the UK to bookend race 1 and race 1,000 at Silverstone but anyone who can recall the Easter GP of 2000 will realise what a very silly idea this would be. I went to a WEC race at Silverstone in April a few years ago and it snowed. Enough said.

So can we hope for a close, exciting and entertaining season with a close battle for race wins and the championship? I have no idea. Testing has suggested Ferrari are the team to beat but then it has suggested this for a few years and the Scuderia has failed to deliver. I suspect the Mercedes will be up to speed come Australia when then take the bag of cement out of the cockpit. Valterri Bottas is talking tough in the season build up, I have a feeling he will roll over and the team will take it in terms to tickle his tummy as each race goes by before they part ways at the end of 2019.

Charles le Clerc should give Sebastian Vettel a run for his money at the red team, it will be fascinating to see how the team dynamic develops and if the young pretender can rattle the four times world champion in the way Daniel Ricciardo did at Red Bull. Talking of Red Bull, it is a new era as they move to Honda power. Testing has shown the engine to be finally getting some reliability and Helmut Marko claims they are behind Ferrari but ahead of Mercedes. This may well be wishful thinking on Helmut's part but I do hope the Red Bull can mix it up the front.

Behind the top three teams Renault and the newly branded Alfa Romeo team look like being at the head of division two with Toro Rosso not too far behind. McLaren, Racing Point and Haas will be hoping to get closer to these two as the season develops whist poor old Williams will simply be grateful to met the 107% rule if current form continues.

So what of Melbourne itself? It took over as the home of the Australian GP from Adelaide in 1996 and has produced, in equal measure, some of the most exciting and boring F1 races I have seen. I hope 2019 proves to be the latter, if not I will have to look to Formula E to continue to compensate for the dirth of excitement in F1.

So stats fans, which drivers (according to Wikipedia) have the most wins at the Australian GP? Well there are two with four wins, Michael Schumacher (well durr) and Lex Davidson. Who he you ask? Well, as much as Formula One would like to think it holds the intellectual property on the term Grand Prix lots of other races have been given this title and Lex won races back in the 50's and 60's.

These races were run to different rules, Davdison's win in the the '54 race being to F2 spec, the '61 race was Formula Libre and looking at the list of entrants it's quite an eye opener. You had Cooper F1 and F2 cars racing against road cars like the Austin 8 and Zephyr. Can you imagine the bleating from today' s drivers if they came up behind a Fiesta or a Mondeo half way through a lap at Melbourne. It's bad enough for the poor little loves when they have to lap a back marker who's only marginally slower than they are.

Back to the Grand Prix pre-85. There is a stunning list of winners including Jim Clark, Graham Hill, Alan Jones and, inevitably, Jack Brabham and Bruce McLaren. These were the days when F1 drivers had to race in various series to make ends meet and were often contracted by the teams to run in F2 and F3 races as well as F1.

Here's another for you stats fans, the Australian GP has been won by two father and son combos (I wasn't sure how else to put this so please forgive my rather clumsy description). Graham and Damon Hill should be easy to work out but Alan Jones' father Stan won the race in 1959 in a Maserati.

Before I leave you to get excited about the upcoming season, one last pointless fact for you to take a guess at. Only one driver won the Australian Grand Prix at the full World Championship event and in the Formula Pacific era, who he?

Welcome to F1 2019.
 
Angel no what I'm trying to say is if the fastest lap is by a driver outside the top ten does it get awarded to the driver with the fastest lap inside the top ten or just not awarded at all?

If not at all teams could sacrafice there 2nd driver to take a point off their title rival. Or even use their B-team drivers to do it.
 
What astonishes me is they say they have asked the fans and this is what they want. Anybody here been asked? Not feeling the love for this idea.
 
Surely a better way of getting people more interested in F1 is not to give a point for fastest laps,but to have the coverage free to air instead.Makes you wonder who these “fans” are that they asked.
 
I watched a prison TV show where the prisoners took over the prison and decided to send a list of demands to the wardens. They voted on what 10 demands to send. Number 1 was the arresting of a guard for the murder of an inmate. Number 10 was more crisps in the vending machines. The wardens gave them number 10 and made a big song and dance about how they had given them exactly what they wanted.

This kind of feels like that.
 
Angel no what I'm trying to say is if the fastest lap is by a driver outside the top ten does it get awarded to the driver with the fastest lap inside the top ten or just not awarded at all?

If not at all teams could sacrafice there 2nd driver to take a point off their title rival. Or even use their B-team drivers to do it.

I don't think anyone gets the point if the driver who does the fastest lap isn't in the top ten. It's not been explained though but I assume it will be. You'd hope so anyway.

What astonishes me is they say they have asked the fans and this is what they want. Anybody here been asked? Not feeling the love for this idea.

I filled in a global F1 fan survey last year sometime I think, it was to do with motorsport .com anyway.
 
Scenario:

Ferrari Boss 1: So Hamilton has the extra point for fastest lap?

Ferrari Boss 2: Yes. Counts for both Championships.

Ferrari Boss 1: Tell Alfa to bring Kimi in for fresh tyres with 3 laps to go. Every point counts.
 
Scenario:

Ferrari Boss 1: So Hamilton has the extra point for fastest lap?

Ferrari Boss 2: Yes. Counts for both Championships.

Ferrari Boss 1: Tell Alfa to bring Kimi in for fresh tyres with 3 laps to go. Every point counts.


I guess that would be how it works. I've tweeted Andrew Benson and asked him to clarify what happens if a driver outside the top ten gets the fastest lap. He hasn't responded as yet but I'll post whatever he says if he does.
 
I guess that would be how it works. I've tweeted Andrew Benson and asked him to clarify what happens if a driver outside the top ten gets the fastest lap. He hasn't responded as yet but I'll post whatever he says if he does.
He might respond -> 'Ooops' :dunno:
 
Well Andrew Benson didn't respond :teary: Maybe I'll ask someone else ;)

Less than a week to race day now, anyone else getting excited or is it just me? ROFL
 
No that doesn't answer the question. What happens to the point if fastest lap is not set by someone in the top ten. Is it not awarded or is given to whoever was quickest in the top ten.

Stupid Benson.
 
If the fastest lap is set by someone not in the top ten then the point isn't awarded to anyone. That's my understanding.

Can't remember which race but Alonso changed to slicks for his penultimate lap and put a fastest lap in to show off/please sponsors whatever, and came 17th or something. The sub-rule makes sense within the umbrella of the main rule, whether you agree with it as a whole for not.

Edit: my first thought was that it's a silly rule, just there as an artificial exciter. What if Ferrari win the championship and it's ultimately arguable that fastest laps won the WDC, not podium positions? However that I think would be an extreme situation, and reality usually falls between the extremes (politics excluded). I'm guessing there'll be the odd contentious point awarded here and there due to a team-mate not going too fast on better tyres or something, but there may be some interesting drama too. Either way I don't think it'll play a main part in deciding anything.
 
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My point about being able to use a B-team to take a point away from a rival stands then. Prepare for a lot of pit stops at 3 laps to go for Kvyat if Max is in title contention!
 
That first answer from Andrew Benson wasn't to my question, it was to someone else who asked a similar question, so I tried again ;)


Angel said:
So if you're not in the top ten, does the point go to whoever was fastest in the top ten, or does no one gets the point? I hope you can help with that please.

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Andrew Benson said:

So no one gets the point if you're not in the top ten when the fastest lap is set.
 
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Never one to give up, I also asked Adam Cooper, he just replied too ;)

Angel said:

  1. So if you're not in the top ten, does the point go to whoever was fastest in the top ten, or does no one gets the point? I hope you can help with that please.

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    Adam Cooper‏ @adamcooperF1 1m1 minute ago



    No it’s not passed on to the second fastest
    Well they both agree, so I guess we have our answer :) I might have copied and pasted the question to save time ;)
 
Huh? So, it goes to the fastest car in the top 10 even though that may not have been the fastest lap of the race?

Comically, the fastest lap point could, in theory, go to the driver who sets the 10th fastest lap of the race.

:facepalm:Strange days indeed
 
Huh? So, it goes to the fastest car in the top 10 even though that may not have been the fastest lap of the race?

Comically, the fastest lap point could, in theory, go to the driver who sets the 10th fastest lap of the race.

:facepalm:Strange days indeed

No I think you misread that, or I did.

From the way I read it, if the person who gets the fastest lap isn't in the top ten when they do it, no one gets the point. So the point won't be awarded every race necessarily.

Whatever, it's a stupid rule which has only served to complicate things as far as I can tell.
 
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