Grand Prix 2018 Hungarian Grand Prix Practice, Qualifying & Race Discussion

So on we go to Budapest (well Mogyoród but anyways) for the 33rd Hungarian Grand Prix. Its the 32nd to be held at the Hungaroring in a row. There is only Monaco and Monza that have been on the calendar for a longer span without any gap. That makes this race a true F1 classic although most won't call it that. The boffins over at wikipedia state 'Due to the nature of the track, narrow, twisty and often dusty because of under-use, the Hungarian Grand Prix is associated with processional races'. Clip the Apex however says differently with Hungary winning the best race of the year more times that any other track. Lets face it there have been some classics. Button winning in a Honda, Heiki winning his 'first of many', Danny Ric showing the 'ladies' how its done, Damon Hill making an Arrows car look like a world beater, Boutson inventing the Trulli train and one of the best wins of all time from Nigel Mansell. Will this years race live up to those standards? I guess we're going to find out.

Hungary itself is a very interesting and beautiful country. It was first defined as a nation in the 9th century, having what it describes as its golden era up until 1526. Then the country was occupied by the Ottoman empire which lasted all the way up until 1699. Hungary then came under Habsberg rule. You might think this has nothing to do with F1 but you would be wrong. Currently racing in F3 is one Ferdinand Habsberg who is a direct descendant from that royal family. Ferdinand is attempting to get into F1 so all that is relevant honest. Under the Habsberg's it was part of the great Austro-Hungarian Empire but after being on the losing side of WWI it was split into two. The borders defined for it then (1920) remain the borders it had today. At the start of WWII Hungary decided to form an alliance with the axis powers. It seems old habits die hard as last year the Hungarian track formed another axis alliance as German Seb Vettel took the win there in the Italian Ferrari. If you are my age and a 20th century history nut Hungary is most famous for its 1956 revolution where students riled up the population to overthrow the puppet government put in place by the Soviet Union. This seemed like it was going to be a success with the USSR even announcing it was going to withdraw troops. However they changed their mind and invaded Budapest and other parts of the country. The Hungarian held out for 6 days with 2500 being killed. 200,000 fled the country as the iron curtain came down. The USSR won but it lost all at the same time as their actions largely turned Western Marxists away from their cause. Talk of the revolution was completely banned from the Hungarian population meaning a whole generation grew up not knowing it even happened. I once met a Hungarian gentlemen who was a qualified historian who told me that until 1990 he had never heard of the 1956 revolution. Just to put that into context, if you'd been in Hungary in 1989 the average citizens would have been able to tell you more about Theirry Boutson and a Williams Renault than they could about their countries own history.

Speaking of Mr Boutson and the day he conquered Hungary - With all these he said/she said calls for penalties on the radio these day I always think back to that 1990 race and a move by Senna on Nannini. Watch it here at 1m 25 and tell me if you think there was a penalty.


The answer is no there wasn't. It wasn't even mention. it was just part of racing. Nannini retired and Senna went on to get 2nd. Later on it the footage Berger tries the same move on Mansell and puts them both out. To say we are living in a different era is an understatement.

Anyways thats my ramblings about Hungary. Its been a topsey turvey kind of year so I'm venturing no predictions for the up coming race other than it will be dominated by Ferrari, Mercedes and Red Bull. Lewis Hamilton has won here more times than anyone else and comes off the back of his greatest win ever. Of course its only his greatest ever win since the last greatest ever win he had but good all the same. The script should say he comes here on a high and kicks everyones bum. Script isn't always followed this year though.
 
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New engines for both Haas and Sauber and a new turbo and MGU-H for all but Grosjean. Some hefty penalties coming for them then.

Ricciardo fastest but only by a squeak.

If anyone else wants to risk their hearing you can buy a copy here: Jacques Villeneuve - Private Paradise

Back at the GP, I'm going to take a punt on a Red Bull win this weekend and probably little Max as Danny Ric has had to go back to an old spec engine.


My cd is worth at least 50p more, it's a signed copy. ;)

As for the old spec engine, it hasn't harmed Ricciardo so far.
 
Relax RasputinLives I can confirm I didn't buy his album. However, my daughter bought a signed copy of it for me. I played it once through to be polite to her, but I valued my hearing, so since then it's been safely tucked away in a drawer :snigger:

When I was at one of the Canadian GPs, they did play a song and video over the big viewing screens. It didn't sound bad. Tempted to order a copy. Was going to at the time, but someone who had a copy recommended I don't waste my money. ;)


Here is a sample:
 
I expect they have seen it elsewhere. There is really no need to traumatise our new members just yet.

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This is not the usual picture we see on Fridays. I'm not sure whether it is worthwhile to spend any time thinking about it. Max with Sebastian on the front row on Sunday morning must be to certain extend a terrifying thought for Ferrari fans.
 
Thanks FB for effort, bundle of joy, yet one cannot helped wondering whether we have become so immune to misdirection F1 rulers have taken us, that we are now more worry about counting bolts and nuts instead technical analysis of racing lines which made one driver a winner, and the others, well, not. Can't put my finger on it, but something doesn't feel right about this new aspect of F1.
 
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Such sad news but this guaranteed ive been seeing this coming & talking for nearly a decade. Because they've let sport get too expensive red bull mercedes & ferrari budgets are collectively a billion pound. You cant tell me that 8m for 1 car at 1 weekend is value for money. For the same money as red bull are spending just at hungarian gp. Ganassi in indy car can run a full season

When 3 car teams mentioned many years ago. Sure brundle said something like that top 3 would rather win but destroy sport. Than be top10 in sustainable sport. Rules have to taken out of teams hands as red bull merc & ferrari for the last decade keep sticking their head in the sand pretending this financial crisis dont exist. Despite Honda Toyota Super Aguri Marussia Caterham HRT & nearly Williams Sauber all pulling out or close to going in 10 yrs

Liberty need to force turkeys to vote for Christmas. Otherwise we will be LMP1 no point of being world champions in 1 horse race

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It just shows the difference in cash given that Force India were 4th in the constructors last season.
 
It just shows the difference in cash given that Force India were 4th in the constructors last season.
Yes, the team that was fourth in the championship last year is now bankrupt....while the team that was fifth has been declared "toast" even though it is using two paying drivers. It is pretty sad.
 
Well shall see what tomorrow brings but it appears looking at the first two practices that:

1. It is either a fight between Ferrari or Red Bull...or
2. The teams are going to stack up Ferrari, Red Bull, Mercedes, Haas, Renault....and be fairly processional.

It would be nice to see a fight.
 
I expect they have seen it elsewhere. There is really no need to traumatise our new members just yet.

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Oh believe me, on our previous forum we had some pictures of Flav that burned into your retinas, you just can't get rid of images like that no matter how you try sadly.
 
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