Grand Prix 2017 Spanish Grand Prix Practice, Qualifying & Race Discussion

Catalonia, made up of four provinces, the capital of which is Barcelona, is an autonomous community in north eastern Spain (Thanks Wikipedia). To explain its long and complicated history would take more time and effort than I currently have at almost 11pm on a Sunday evening. The one fact that should concern us however, is that since 1991 the region has been home to the Circuit de Barcelona-Catalunya and the Spanish Grand Prix.

It's hard to imagine that Spain has been one of the longest serving fixtures on the F1 calendar. Making its debut as a World Championship event in 1951, it has been in and out of the calendar on several occasions and been hosted by a number of circuits but has been ever present since 1986.

Catalunya which took over from Jerez after 1990, couldn't have got off to a better start in 1991, hosting the famous dog fight between Senna and Mansell. As the years progressed however, and car designs became more overtaking unfriendly, the track has felt it more than most of the older circuit designs. A design change to the final corner took away the sweeping right hander in the name of improving overtaking but had absolutely no effect and actually reduced the risk that the most commited drivers would take to hang the car on the ragged edge to maximise their speed onto the main straight.

Interestingly, despite the circuit's poor reputation, the race has been won by a different driver in every season since 2007. It also featured the debut wins for Pastor Maldonado and Max Verstappen.

This season, clearly there will only be two teams in the hunt for the top spots. Given Bottas' success in Russia it adds a new dynamic to the championship battle that at one stage looked set to be all about Hamilton and Vettel. So long as Mercedes keep picking up the constructors championship points they've shown in the past that they are not too concerned about which driver comes home in front of the other. Can Valteri go on to make a case for the title in his own right?

Further down the field the Red Bull's need to find something. This is the first time in a number of season that they are clearly the third best team by some distance. Of course they wil look to develop the car and have more facility than those around them to push towards the top two but it is clear that something is not quite right with the Austrian fizzy drinks maker.

Sadly, Force India almost certainly don't have the required resources to close their own gap to Red Bull but are by a distance the fourth best team. While Williams, Toro Rosso, Haas and Renault scrap it out for the remainder of the spoils.

Who would have thought, that McLaren would be about to enter the 5th race of the season on zero alongside Sauber at the back of the pack. To say that's an absolute joke for one of F1's most successful teams and one of the worlds largest vehicle manufacturers is an understatement. Like him or loath him, they have one of the best drivers on the grid kicking his heels in a car that on its last run out didn't manage a single racing lap. If you look at the other great names in F1 who have taken that long slide into failure and eventual closure, it was in every case down to a lack of money and resources, Lotus, Brabham, BRM to name a few. McLaren don't have that excuse.

Will Spain throw up another suprise this year? Strangely, the odds are, it just may do.
 
Barcelona is always the test track so I'm going for lifting the ban on testing.

Edit - prob wishful thinking on my part.
 
It's just struck me that if Liberty and co do have something interesting to announce, it might be to do with the fans at the track. I've been to the last four Barca GPs with the same bunch of friends, but we decided to have a break this year. That'll serve us right for not being there!
 
Holy crap, if this is correct or anywhere near on saturday we are in for a treat

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Edit - it turns out this comes from a few dutch websites top gear NL & autobahn which i used google translate for. As they have source (same one that 1st said Max verstappen would replace Kyvat) has revealed in the sim results the RB14
 
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Meh, the man who programmes to stimulator needed to keep up the pretence that these machines are worthwhile.
 
As long as he has never worked for Caterham - I seem to recall that they would have 1 sec per lap updates at almost every race back in the day.

Be great if it happens
 
As long as he has never worked for Caterham - I seem to recall that they would have 1 sec per lap updates at almost every race back in the day.

Be great if it happens
Clearly, the drivers weren't up to the game then. A team can't employ a pair of third class drivers like Webber or worse and expect improvements, a team needs a pair of Alonsos, Hamiltons or Vettels for that to happen.;)
 
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What do you think he means by this then chase carey. I have faith in him because i feel like ive seen more positive changes in f1 in last 2yrs than ive seen since i properly started to understand f1 2003/2004

Turns out it was just putting a few more things on for the fans attending the events. Things most other motor sport events have been doing for years and will prob cost a fortune.
 
Can we just move the Spanish GP to Motorland Aragon already? Yes its a Tilke track, but its a very good one, with good elevation, high-speed corners and places to pass.
 
another weekend yet another problem, getting more obvious McLaren will have to choose between Alonso or Honda in 2018, because im wondering the strained relationship will last to Abu Dhabi this year nevermind 2018

i have sympathy for alonso as 3 yrs development in, Merc (2011 - 2014) were dominating F1. Honda (2014 - 2017) have trouble starting a race in sochi nevermind finishing or getting anywhere near a podium. reportedly Alonso has left the circuit and gone back to his hotel & apparently Sky sports have asked Fernando Alonso's manager if the Spaniard will return for FP2 and got the reply "I hope so". now that would be story. but i wouldnt blame him because this is now getting embarrassing on regular basis every race weekend

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