Current Red Bull Racing

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    Red Bull considering applying for planning permission to have enough room for their ever expanding trophy collection.

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    Looks like Newey is in it for the long term at RB Racing as he appears to have more of a connection with the team than his previous employers.

    He also explains the hole in the nose.

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/formula1/16929993
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    Bill Boddy Professional layabout

    According to motorsport.com Red Bull will not be running their latest car at Melbourne. They will, instead, be running the chassis that they had prior to the final two days of testing. Since there is so little testing allowed it seems that they will have trouble using it all, they could try it on Fridays with one driver I suppose but that would mean a lot of disruption, maybe even causing problems with the drivers.

    "Not bad for someone who only had free running with the crap car".

    http://www.motorsport.com/f1/news/red-bull-may-revert-to-old-rb8-for-melbourne-report/
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    Brogan Founder

    Horner rules out Hamilton as a replacement for Webber (not going to say I told you so ;))


    http://www1.skysports.com/formula-1/news/12433/7593426/
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    ExtremeNinja Monaco Champagne-Charlie

    Brownie points to Red Bull for wanting to make champions rather than buy champions.
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    RasputinLives I can't fit fitter than a quick fit fitter

    If Vettel hadn't been the success he is they would prob not have the same policy. They don't need a world beater at the moment - they have one - if they produce another one then the more the merrier but if these guys flop oh well nice try. Would have been a very different story if Vettel had turned out to pants - I'm pretty sure they'd have been flashing the cash to get themselves Lewis or Fernando.

    As for the Hammy move. I was pretty sure at one point that the Red Bull brand couldn't resist linking up with the Hamilton brand but Lewis troubles on and off track last season have certainly put his stock down and Seb's utter domination and strange school boy charm have certainly put his stock up meaning Red Bull prob won't go over Horner's head with it now. Could all change though. Lets remember that the Red Bull name is in F1 for one reason only to associate its product with success and promote it around the world and if the guys at the head office decide Lewis Hamilton is the man to do that then I don't think it matters one fig what Christian Horner says.
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    Marc Nothing to see here.

    So where are redbull in pecking order? Apparently yet to run a low fuel load, however had Vis flo on card in free practice. So what we think?

    Personally I think they are still gonna be fast, but not as much of a gap. Pretty much similar to what others have predicted. However in the same respect Hamilton & Button (button especially) look very comfortable in that McLaren.
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    Bill Boddy Professional layabout

    When other teams put Vis flo on during free practice it is usually regarded as a not very good sign. Since it is Red Bull it may be just that they are checking the calibration of their computer software.
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    Brogan Founder

    You have your answer.
    On one lap pace they appear to be fourth fastest.

    The race is a different matter though so we'll have to wait a bit to find that out.
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    Marc Nothing to see here.

    Indeed. Webber has already said he had a KERS problem and is looking at podium. Certainly gonna be a good race tomorrow thats for sure.
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    RasputinLives I can't fit fitter than a quick fit fitter

    So Red Bull and Mclaren seem to have swapped round from last season with Mclaren looking dominant in quali but Red Bull pretty much keeping with em on race pace. Should be interesting to see the roles reversed
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    Brogan Founder

    Indeed.

    I don't see the McLaren as having quite the same level of advantage as the Red Bull had though.
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    RasputinLives I can't fit fitter than a quick fit fitter

    No but you have to say they looked pretty good - the way Button pulled out 2 seconds on Vettel on the first lap after the safety car was pure role reversal
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    they did consider Fernando Alonso when he became available for 2008 like every other team because then Flavio would have simply shoved Webber to Renault to get Alonso into Red Bull if that was the case before Alonso chose Renault.

    That is because Red Bull were only midfield then and still question mark and he was angling towards a Ferrari drive being his other option

    Horner may say what he likes but in the past its proven to mean nothing when Helmut opens his mouth and if Hamilton was available

    DO you think Red Bull would not want him to gain attention and success and rather he joins another team and stops them from having further success
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    ExtremeNinja Monaco Champagne-Charlie

    ...Alonso was a driver who had lost a lot of his stock at that time, due to some extremely unendearing behaviour in 2007. Whatever considerations were made the decisions went in a different way. I'm not going to speculate on what ifs and could have beens with nothing to go on but your insights.

    I'll not be detracting my awarded brownie points based on your rebuke which you claim is "proven" so I'll leave my input on this where it was a week ago.
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    I think it was Ross Brawn who said that everyone had been waiting nervously for the new Red Bull package at the final test, but actually it didn't produce the results that they, or their rivals, had been expecting.

    If that is the case, and Red Bull can find out where they went wrong (the exhaust set-up is a big part of the package, I believe) then Horner may be proved right.
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    Bill Boddy Professional layabout

    Last week Horner said that Red Bull hadn't showed it's full speed in pre-season testing as they had always been running heavy on fuel. He went on to say that their speed would be seen when they did take the fuel out at the weekend. They did and it didn't.

    Last weekend during free practice Red Bull were using flo Vis paint, together with what happened in qualy and the race, that he is making a prophecy which he cannot guarentee.
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    teabagyokel Maldo?

    They did show their speed and it just wasn't as fast. Live by the sword...
  3. Viscount Rookie

    http://www.fia.com/en-GB/mediacentre/f1_media/Documents/aus-race-analysis.pdf

    I had a look at the lap times found above and in the last stint at least after the safety car, the Red Bulls had similar pace to the McLarens. I calculated their average lap times for 15 laps of the last 16 (I excluded the final lap since some slow down past the pit lane). So the average lap times for laps 43 -57 were:


    Button - 1:30.038
    Vettel - 1:30.049
    Hamilton - 30.117
    Webber - 1:30.122

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