2011 Team mates comparison - #12 McLaren

I wonder what the odds were Button being Hamilton over a season and I am waiting for the first conspiracy theory?

I seem to remember a lot of people rubbished Mark Hughes' claims that Button vs Hamilton will intensify after Bahrain last year

How about the next excuse why Button is not a top driver following on from

Won't win a race...
Won't be world champion...
Won't drive for a top team (thats Mclaren or Ferrari by definition)...
Won't beat Hamilton...

I had a good bet down on Hamilton being Button over a season but every time I tuned in Button was still Button. I've been following this trend for sometime and in fact Button has always been Button. so if anyone wants to make the same bet, I'll double the best odds you can find.

I thought your post was baiting a little, so thought best just to make light of it.

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I think it shows that being able to think one's way through a race paid off better than having a bucket-full of "raw pace" - plus managing not to run into Felipe Massa at every apparent opportunity obviously helped keep Jenson ahead.

...I have another theory about the fluids of a certain parent, but I'll not go into them on this thread...

Slower in quali and slower in the first part of the race before coming on strongly was what usually happened with Button

We're not on 606 anymore which is guaranteed to be the case if this post went up with the usual anti Lewis conspiracy at Mclaren for being slower than Button



Murray Walker has done his latest Q & A on the BBC and he is adamant both drivers were given equal opportunities 2011

I don't understand this sentence or what relevance 606 has to your comment or even this forum. 606 is dead and buried. Let's leave it in the ground, shall we?

[EDIT] Sorry for going into keyboard warrior mode. I just got a little niggled.

To be honest, I am not sure what the numbers actually show. As a big JB fan, there are things that I would love to be able to say about his performance vs Lewis, but I cannot, as Lewis showed that he is never to be underestimated, and showed why through several races last season.

I think to be honest last season was a game of two halves for Jenson, with some poor results at the start, and a run of 8 podiums in 9 races to close out the season, including a dry weather win at Suzuka.

Lewis showed serious flashes of brilliance, notably in China and Germany, and I wont go into the down side, as this has been covered ad nauseum.

I am sure that many will interpret the stats in any one of a billion ways, to back up their own opinions, me too, to be honest (in the privacy of my own home I hasten to add!) but, 2 seasons together, 1 season each, against expectations, and an enticing battle for the coming year!

^great post. Balanced and non inflammatory, and fits my own view!

I think if this shows anything its that tyres and race pace wern't really the issue for Hamilton this year

He was ahead of Button for more laps of the year than the other way around
race pace doesn't appear to be an issue
He comfortably beat Button in qualifying
He got the teams only pole position
He matched Buttons number of fastest laps and wins

This reinforces the issue was getting into too many accidents and recieving too many punishments from stewards

The latest theory is he has had depression, 2012 will be interesting

Crucially he failed to see the chequered flag ahead of Button which matters most on top of his accidents and penalties from the stewards

Hence not seeing the flag before Button which matters most ala Prost vs Senna.. we all know Senna would be faster than Prost and lead more laps but Prost would always manage to keep up with him and get ahead of somehow later in the race

The Korea one looks funny

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